Tuesday, September 12, 2006

September 12

Kevin Clark, part Deux

The Examiner reports on the return of former Police Commissioner Kevin Clark, whom the courts have ruled was improperly discharged by Hizzoner NO'Malley. Now, as I've been calling for the doubling of police manpower, I didn't really mean in the Commissioner's office. I was actually thinking we could do without the current occupant.

In the Sun's Police Blotter the two young men murdered in South Charles Village are identified.

A crime emergency meeting was held in Patterson Park with councilman Jim Kraft and City Police. Never have have so few done so little for so very many white people. Really white. Looked like a Donny Osmond concert. In my neighborhood you cannot find so many at one time, unless it's Saturday morning and there are organic apples on sale.

17 comments:

John Galt said...

BTW, that was (me) Galt writing, not Cybes, so throw the rotten produce at the right target.

Anonymous said...

Were you there Galt? You seem to speak with authority on what happened.

I was there. Not everyone was white. The audience was mostly community-involved folks from the surrounding neighborhoods, about 200 people. It did not look like an "Osmond concert".

You said "Never have have so few done so little for so very many white people". I disagree. I would say GETTING SHOT is doing a whole fucking lot.

-H.

Maurice Bradbury said...

H., did you just say that citizens getting shot is helping white people? Just checking.

Anonymous said...

OMG No! How do you get that?

I said the officer getting shot in the line of duty is doing a whole lot.

They have a dangerous job and I appreciate what they do.

BTW, the preps were "loitering" in the park.

Maurice Bradbury said...

an officer getting shot?
Sarcasm doesn't translate well into type I guess...

Anonymous said...

What on earth are you talking about?

John Galt said...

We have alot of miscommunication here. When I said 'so few done so little', I certainly wasn't referring to officer Cirello. I was referring to Jim Kraft and the command staff of BCPD. When residents express concern that their neighborhood feels unsafe, it's not satisfactory for the City to respond [Well, this is an improvement over the thoroughly outrageous conditions before.]

Residents want more officers visible, they should get them. That means hiring many more cops, not playing the shell game with deployments between neighborhoods.
Now you see 'em, now you don't.

And the people loitering in the park, I think, were perps, not preps. The preps were inside.

Anonymous said...

In this case, Cirello _was_ the additional officer that the citizens and the park volunteers demanded. This is something that people wanted for years, but there was never anyone assigned permanently until this year.

The way he did his job was to question anyone who was in the park at night-- eg the preps/perps.

It was stated that there were fewer park related robberies this year (7) than there were last year. The given reason for the lower number was the presence of the officer.

-H.

InsiderOut said...

at the meeting they kept saying how crime was down this year from last. If that's true, then why are so many people complaining about the crime around the park? Also, why would you need an emergency crime meeting just to tell folks that crime is down. It sounds like a whole bunch of hooey!

Anonymous said...

As community meeting veteran, I can tell you that any time you get more than 20 people to a meeting, they are going to bitch about crime. Its a law of physics.

I've been to a number of these (during Jack C Young's reign), they all pretty much give people a chance to vent, network, and ask questions. The district commander tries to make everyone feel better, his subordinates actually offer real information, and the politician(s) just MC's everything.

Some questions are just dull monologues from people who like to hear themselves talk and some questions are pointed concerns than need to be addressed publicly.

A lot of people need these events when something bad happens.

-H.

Anonymous said...

insiderout,

you must have been the guy with the crime-map print-outs?

-H.

Anonymous said...

I cant wait to sell my 1925 shell of
1700 sqft home on "Jefferson St" to "John Hop" and move over to "Butchers
Hill" lol

Maurice Bradbury said...

H., I totally love community meetings, because there is always some crank who won't shut up!

They're fixing the sewer line that runs under the Stoney Run ad Hopkins so massive amounts of raw sewage won't spill into the stream that goes between Hopkins and Hampden every time it rains... a good project if there ever was one. But of course at the meeting cranky people were just livid and monolouging about preserving local plants, and just like the formula, the lead engineer was soothing, his underlings were pointing at maps... no matter what the meeting is about, it's always the same, a big group therapy session!

Anonymous said...

SE Baltimore PD needs to be called out for doing a half assed job. I live in Patterson Park . I have noticed an increase in drug activity in front of my house. The police come and roll down their windows and tell the dealers that "if [they] have to come back ,someone's going to jail" and then they drive off. They don't even get out of their cars!!!

PATHETIC.
Seriously. It's out of hand.

Anonymous said...

I also live in the area (Patterson). All I can say is that things were horrendously worse 5 years ago.

The best thing you can do is to relay specific information to the police regularly: addresses, location of stashes, plate #'s, names (they always have "street names"), descriptions, times of peak activity. If you can develop a contact within the department that you can email or fax that is ideal. Another resource is your community association who may or may not be aware of the activity but most likely has a solid contact in the SEPD. It may also be possible to put pressure the landlord to evict the dealers.

As scary as it sounds, a bunch of low-lifes on a corner is not a crime, and the police get burned if they are too aggressive about it.

What you really want is for detectives perform a sting. That will shut down the operation and put people in jail.

There, I gave a bunch of advice. Take it or leave it. You can always listen to professional city-haters like galt who offer no real solutions. By "real solutions", I mean things that ordinary people can do-- not things like "double the police force", mass incarceration, forced orphanage, etc...

-H.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for making my point.

Policing is not to be done by ordinary people. It is to be done by municipal government. It's why we have municipal government, not to give handouts to nonprofits. Government is to hire professionals for that purpose. Unfortunately, we'll have to make do with the BCPD staff for the moment. (see current newspaper articles on continuing police misconduct)

It's great if ordinary folk do what is civic to aid the police, but the burden should never, ever fall on them to do the legwork. They should be willing to tell police what they saw as bystander witnesses.

That's part of why Baltimore sucks.

I've never heard of a city where the citizens have to paint the schools, clean the alleys, and surveil the hoodlums. This is not normal.

It's nice that things are much better than they were in your area. It would be better if all neighborhoods benefitted proportionately, rather than this picking and choosing of neighborhoods.

Anonymous said...

Galt- Baltimore does not suck. It has room for improvement. That is obvious.

ANONYMOUS -Thank you for the advice regarding getting license numbers..etc. I want change. I guess I have to step up my tactics.

I go through periods when I just give up on the South East Baltimore police - I call and they drive by, wave their finger and continue on their way. I just don't see them being "burnt out" or really breaking a sweat - ever. I've called for major issues such as "the people next door are beating the shit out of each other" (its a drug house!!) and I can HEAR the police when they arrive. They won't even enter the house, they stand at the door and say "I better not have to come back". Then they lean against their squad cars and talk amongst each other about kayaking and golf. I am not kidding. I've overheard countless conversations about "who's seen the grossest prostitute" but I never hear them talking about making the neighborhood safer. It seems like a joke to them and really, the neighborhood is just fed up.