IMO the McCann's are in denial about their daughter's suicide. Maybe she was the victim of foul play but when's the last time you heard of a Baltimore hoodlum forcing someone to drink lidocaine? Unless there's some real evidence that Annie McCann was murdered the family needs to drop their frivolous lawsuit and stop making unfair accusations of misconduct.
Go read the initial articles about the McCann case. The girl had no high school friends. She was micromanaged by her parents whom she was in constant cell phone contact throughout her day. For fun she attended 6AM Catholic mass and wrote suicide notes. After her death many of her high school classmates had no clue as to who she was.
Our hoodlums certainly are evildoers, but this gal was way outside their repertoire. The McCanns are desperately trying to convince themselves that it was not their helicopter parenting and lack of recognition of a deeply depressed and suicidal child that caused what happened, not a Baltimore ne'er-do-well.
Sigh, it's all very sad no matter how you look at it. I guess if they are Catholics then to believe that she committed suicide would also mean believing that she's in hell.
From what I understand suicide no longer automatically means you go to hell in Catholicism. If you're mentally ill then that's considered a mitigating factor and you aren't fully responsible for your actions.
Disclaimer: I am not a believer in Roman Popery so take any theological advice from me with a grain of salt.
Catechism of the Catholic Church states: "Grave psychological disturbances, anguish, or grave fear of hardship, suffering, or torture can diminish the responsibility of the one committing suicide." [Source]
wouldn't someone who commits suicide by definition be psychologically disturbed and anguished? And what does diminished responsibility mean in terms of the afterlife? Extra purgatorio?
I think that diminished responsibility means it goes from being a mortal sin to a venial one. That means no automatic damnation but I think you're correct about extra time in purgatory.
For something to be a mortal since the sinner must be be fully aware of what they're doing, sort of a theological equivalent of mens rea.
I always find it amusing how bureaucratic the Catholic version of God is :)
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IMO the McCann's are in denial about their daughter's suicide. Maybe she was the victim of foul play but when's the last time you heard of a Baltimore hoodlum forcing someone to drink lidocaine? Unless there's some real evidence that Annie McCann was murdered the family needs to drop their frivolous lawsuit and stop making unfair accusations of misconduct.
Go read the initial articles about the McCann case. The girl had no high school friends. She was micromanaged by her parents whom she was in constant cell phone contact throughout her day. For fun she attended 6AM Catholic mass and wrote suicide notes. After her death many of her high school classmates had no clue as to who she was.
Our hoodlums certainly are evildoers, but this gal was way outside their repertoire. The McCanns are desperately trying to convince themselves that it was not their helicopter parenting and lack of recognition of a deeply depressed and suicidal child that caused what happened, not a Baltimore ne'er-do-well.
Sigh, it's all very sad no matter how you look at it. I guess if they are Catholics then to believe that she committed suicide would also mean believing that she's in hell.
From what I understand suicide no longer automatically means you go to hell in Catholicism. If you're mentally ill then that's considered a mitigating factor and you aren't fully responsible for your actions.
Disclaimer: I am not a believer in Roman Popery so take any theological advice from me with a grain of salt.
ppatin is correct.
Catechism of the Catholic Church states: "Grave psychological disturbances, anguish, or grave fear of hardship, suffering, or torture can diminish the responsibility of the one committing suicide." [Source]
wouldn't someone who commits suicide by definition be psychologically disturbed and anguished? And what does diminished responsibility mean in terms of the afterlife? Extra purgatorio?
mj:
I think that diminished responsibility means it goes from being a mortal sin to a venial one. That means no automatic damnation but I think you're correct about extra time in purgatory.
For something to be a mortal since the sinner must be be fully aware of what they're doing, sort of a theological equivalent of mens rea.
I always find it amusing how bureaucratic the Catholic version of God is :)
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