Sunday, December 9, 2007

Khan: Save My Torture Tapes

Owings Mills High grad Majid Khan has asked for a court order barring the government from destroying evidence of his treatment whilst he was held in a secret CIA prison.
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Baltimore_Yeti said...

Here is something the "mainstream media" has ignored. Al Qaeda tells operatives to claim torture.

UK/BM-176 TO UK/BM-180 TRANSLATION
The al Qaeda manual presented here was made available by the FBI which distributed the manual on their website: www.fbi.gov
The object of bin Laden is to establish a "Caliphate according to the prophet’s path." To accomplish this objective he must induce others to engage in acts and would bring about a world economic collapse and social upheaval that would bring about the deaths of hundreds of millions. To contain this mad man the best weapon is the truth. The Disaster Center
Lesson Eighteen
PRISONS AND DETENTION CENTERS

IF AN INDICTMENT IS ISSUED AND THE TRIAL, BEGINS, THE BROTHER HAS TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE FOLLOWING:

1 . At the beginning of the trial, once more the brothers must insist on proving that torture was inflicted on them by State Security [investigators ]before the judge.

2. Complain [to the court] of mistreatment while in prison.

3. Make arrangements for the brother’s defense with the attorney, whether he was retained by the brother’s family or court-appointed.

4. The brother has to do his best to know the names of the state security officers, who participated in his torture and mention their names to the judge.[These names may be obtained from brothers who had to deal with those officers in previous cases.]

5. Some brothers may tell and may be lured by the state security investigators to testify against the brothers [i.e. affirmation witness ], either by not keeping them together in the same prison during the trials, or by letting them talk to the media. In this case, they have to be treated gently, and should be offered good advice, good treatment, and pray that God may guide them.

6. During the trial, the court has to be notified of any mistreatment of the brothers inside the prison.

7. It is possible to resort to a hunger strike, but i t is a tactic that can either succeed or fail.

8. Take advantage of visits to communicate with brothers outside prison and exchange information that may be helpful to them in their work outside prison [according to what occurred during the investigations]. The importance of mastering the art of hiding messages is self evident here.

-When the brothers are transported from and to the prison [on their way to the court] they should shout Islamic slogans out loud from inside the prison cars to impress upon the people and their family the need to support Islam.

-Inside the prison, the brother should not accept any work that may belittle or demean him or his brothers, such as the cleaning of the prison bathrooms or hallways.

-The brothers should create an Islamic program for themselves inside the prison, as well as recreational and educational ones, etc.

-The brother in prison should be a role model in selflessness. Brothers should also pay attention to each others needs and should help each other and unite vis a vis the prison officers.

-The brothers must take advantage of their presence in prison for obeying and worshipping [God] and memorizing the Qora ’an, etc. This is in addition to all guidelines and procedures that were contained in the lesson on interrogation and investigation. Lastly, each of us has to understand that we don ’t achieve victory against our enemies through these actions and security procedures. Rather, victory is achieved by obeying Almighty and Glorious God and because of their many sins. Every brother has to be careful so as not to commit sins and everyone of us has to do his best in obeying Almighty God, Who said in his Holy Book: “We will, without doubt. help Our messengers and those who believe (both)in this world ’s life and the one Day when the Witnesses will stand forth.” May God guide us.

Sun Dec 09, 07:53:00 PM EST
ppatin said...

The sentences in the Zach Sowers case are insane. Here you have Alex & his droogs off committing ultra-violence for the fun of it, and what do they get? Eight years! They'd better get a life sentence against Trayvon Ramos in exchange for the plea bargains they offered they other three or I am going to go take a dump on Pat Jessamy's doorstep.

Sun Dec 09, 09:37:00 PM EST
Malnurtured Snay said...

Well, if we hadn't been torturing and abusing prisoners in the first place, it'd be a lot easier to claim bullshit. Yet another way Bush & Co. have cocked up the war on terror and screwed this country's reputation. Thanks guys! Glad I never voted for you!

Mon Dec 10, 09:31:00 AM EST
ppatin said...

Eh, is it really that big a deal if we torture a few people. I mean I'm sure being waterboarded isn't fun, but compared to other forms of torture that were used throughout history it's pretty mild.

Mon Dec 10, 10:03:00 AM EST
Maurice Bradbury said...

I think it's a big deal, due process is (or should be) a cornerstone our American values and what separates us from the very terrorists we're fighting. Besides, torture is ineffective, people who're tortured will agree to anything.

Mon Dec 10, 10:13:00 AM EST
ppatin said...

"Besides, torture is ineffective, people who're tortured will agree to anything."

I've got to disagree with that bit. One of the things they'll agree to is to tell you the truth! Obviously you want corroboration for any information you obtain through waterboarding, but there are plenty of examples in history of people having useful information tortured out of them.

What scares me more than a few people being tortured is the nonsense that the administration pulled with Jose Padilla. He was a scumbag, but he was also a US citizen arrested on American soil, and they held him for years without charges or access to a lawyer. Now that's some scary shit right there.

Mon Dec 10, 10:32:00 AM EST

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